Former President Donald Trump handily won the Iowa caucuses on Monday night, bringing him one step closer to the Republican nomination. But was his victory inevitable?

In this conversation, the Times Opinion columnist Michelle Goldberg asks that question of the deputy Opinion editor, Patrick Healy, and the two discuss what a second Trump inauguration would mean for America.

(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available midday on the Times website.)

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This episode of “The Opinions” was produced by Vishakha Darbha. It was edited by Kaari Pitkin and Annie-Rose Strasser. Mixing by Isaac Jones. Original music by Sonia Herrero. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta.