Larry Johnson was so kind as to indulge me in having what amounted to a podcast for his YouTube outlet, CounterCurrents. He has a very easygoing style, which made for a fun talk (I hope not too much fun at the expense of information content!). Even though Johnson has regularly mentioned in his regular Judge Napolitano and Dialogue Works talks his role in developing propaganda, erm, information management programs in his time at the CIA, I got a better sense from this discussion how much he had done on this front (a lot!) and how extensive these operations were, even back then.